? >> well, you have to make the case that in this hyper competitive global economy that we now live in, we can't afford to let hurry infrastructure either go to waste or not keep up with what is happening in other countries. he made that argument today, the president, in terms of sustainable energy. i know it makes sense to some people that we have to hunker down and not spend money on anything. but that's really being sort of penny-wise but pound foolish. i mean, actually right now interest rates are so low, that you're a fool if you don't do some investments in terms of education innovation to keep up with other nations. and the president just has to keep making that argument at the same time, chris, i think he does have to sort of deal with some of these long-term deficit debt issues, and just take them off the gosh darn table. >> i agree. >> because they do take up so much oxygen. and i would rather have him handle that than the next republican president who might come along some day. >> well said. gentlemen, let's get to the electoral problem. we all talked about it, we diagnosed it.